I completely agree and have said I don't think enough guys place scope and ltd high enough in their list. Let's not ignore pay rates though. I don't agree with your comment about the linear scale of the legacies and their 8 year upgrades. The upgrades at the majors will come way down shortly as ours increase to the point where they will match. And instead of getting a good longevity increase every year wouldn't it be better to be making money closer to the top of the scale from the beginning.