Originally Posted by
orvil
Do guys really get upset about when you turn base? Again, in the old days, the Captain only wanted to be awoken when the gear went down. Has something changed.
(That's a true story. I won't name names, but in MSY we had a Captain that really lived this motto.)
Chill out, they are fngs. We were all there once, or twice

People get used to flying with nothing but experienced FO's for years and years and years. Especially when they themselves are high time in seat. We're hypnotically trained to call the airport or (any) traffic in sight ASAP. Immediately. Now. Do it. Do it now. Even at night in terrain. Call the visual! Do the break maneuver! What are you waiting for?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Its intimidating to be a new hire in that environment, particularly a low time (in general) one flying with an ultra high time in seat CA that never calls for checklists and and knows how to (and expects) flight idle from descent to 500' on every approach, etc.
No training program can produce pilots with 20 hours in type that are as proficient as pilots with 10,000 in type. Its not the biggest deal in the world. Its just one, of many, CRM threats that's all.
WRT this discussion, the moral of the story is we probably shouldn't be writing up most new hires or snaking them on their probie reports because they're not as awesome as the pilots some may be used to flying with for many, many years. And we should
never snake someone behind their backs after shaking their hands after the trip like nothing happened.