Originally Posted by
Sink r8
This is an interesting conversation. If ALPA and the Company aren't entertaining a reduction in PS, good for them.
PD hasn't backed up his claim yet, but I'm not dismissing it out-of-hand. Jerry has made the claim that some specific people are pushing for a monetization of the PS, but he can't back it up. Jerry sometimes has great rumors, sometimes he's just a puppet for some council's ventriloquist. He's warned on things that haven't yet materialized, like Pay Banding, but he failed to warn on SDP's.
I'm one of the people that believes he saw a trial balloon floating across the lounge. To be clear, I spoke to a guy that likes to be union-adjacent, but isn't in the structure as far as I know. He told me he had just spoken about the AA TA with a rep, and he (the pilot, not the rep) believed we wouldn't see much above AMR (DAL+7%) without monetizing the PS. I didn't have the time to expand on how the previous conversation caused him to believe this. For all I know, the rep simply told him the AA numbers, and that was that. I really have no first-hand knowledge of anyone in the union pushing for a monetization of the PS.
Another reason I thought some of had been exposed to trial balloons was this post:
But now sailing says he saw nothing, heard nothing...
So far, we have an unconfirmed from PD, a denial from sailing, the usual from Jerry, and the impression that I saw a trial balloon floating by, maybe, via proxy.
Anyone else?
A couple of points on your statement above. The first point is Americans payrates will be 10% above ours not 7 at the Amendable date. The second is that the monetary value of the profit sharing to the Delta pilot group is probably less then Americans funding obligations to the pilot A plan. I would consider it at least a direct offset on costs.
I posted a while back that I suspected this would be a long bitter contract. With recent changes in the industry and the American contract I now think we might actually reach a deal prior to the amendable date that will ratify. RA does not care how much he pays us, he only cares about how much of a premium he pays us over the competition.