Originally Posted by typical41

Reserve credit leveling does its' job well, it keeps reserves below 75 hours. The company will not be able to afford building a lot of uproductive, min credit trips, because of staffing. So one of the few advantages of adtg is effectively nullified.

The other previous advantage of adtg, which will also be nullified with the 4 hrs min credit and pay is....adtg does protect a pilot to a small degree, if a pilots 30 hr overnight cancels, that pilot would still get the adtg credit regardless. Under ONLY 4 hrs pay (pre-ADTG time), that pilot would lose the pay, since it was not flown. Where this advantage gets wiped away is when you compare adtg to 4 hrs min day pay & CREDIT. no lost pay, or credit anymore. So the two primary advantages of adtg, are not really advantages at all.

To me, even when they were previously comparing adtg to 4 hrs PAY ONLY(when the MEC was explaining why they chose adtg), the adtg method was still the the worst way. Now, we are comparing 4 hrs pay and credit min day vs adtg, and that is a no-brainer.

This ADTG crap was even presented to us pilots as a means to an end. That end.....is 4 hrs pay & credit min day....which would occur 12 months after adtg implementation. Multiple MEC members have admitted privately that they knew adtg was a bad deal, but it was only done to protect us from the arbitration, and that in 12 months we can switch to WHAT WE WANTED IN OUR CONTRACT ALL ALONG........4 hrs min pay and credit. NOT ADTG. This to me is the biggest issue. Why are we backing down from what our pilots originally asked for in our new contract?

And now, here we are, having adtg sold to us again? I know they have to present the numbers for both methods, but that presentation seemed very slanted, in my opinion. It certainly did not paint a complete and accurate picture.