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Old 01-15-2015 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Roadkill
Not out of line at all.
FIRST, you apparently took the "beaten about the head and shoulders with a herring" seriously, which should be an indicator to the astute reader of some tongue-in-cheek writing, not to be taken wholly seriously.

Ok, well so let's say you took it seriously.
How long did we have to work to get the trip parking stopped? This is fruit off the same tree. This is not something we can currently do, this is a NEW WORK RULE LOSS that is being discussed! Therefore NO ONE has any "life and choices and circumstance" that are affected by this hypothetical! And your straw man of "judge others so harshly without knowing any facts"-- JUDGE WHO?? NO ONE can do this, therefore I'm not judging ANY ACTUAL PERSON harshly. I'm judging a job-reducing short-sighted potential work rule harshly--yes. If YOU felt insulted, well I've got nothing against the Fiigmo, you shouldn't.

1. I didn't insult anyone. Someone asked for pro-con, did NOT say they supported this. I didn't call them or you anything; I posited a hypothetical pilot with a particular opinion that no one (that I recall) has espoused. An opinion that I'm 100% against, and that I pre-emptively attacked before anyone particularly supported it. Guys should know and be told in no uncertain terms when a work rule
2. At some point the trip goes up for GS coverage and someone IN BASE gets the chance to make more $$. No matter WHERE or HOW it is done, allowing ANOTHER group of pilots to offer to fly that trip, which the company currently does not have the ability to access or with reduced restrictions (!), will reduce the pressure on the company in that base for coverage and will reduce the number of trips put out for GS. The END EFFECT is to reduce the number of pilots needed to fly the entire Delta schedule. All of that is negative.

If you want to fly trips out of a base, bid the base. Or bid OOB White Slips like Dalad does above, which are already in the coverage matrix.

When someone at that base doesn't want to fly a trip and puts it on the swap board--it's THOSE GUY's TRIP, Guys at THAT BASE. To take or to let fall into the coverage ladder, and maybe go to GS IN THAT BASE. I can just imagine the bidding cabals that would emerge if we were foolish enough to ever let this camel get it's nose in the tent...
Not arguing with you but still trying to determine the pros/cons of out of base swap board pick ups. If a swap board trip doesn't get picked up it IS NOT going to fall into an in base GS as you suggest. Rather, the pilot who is trying to dump the trip is going to be stuck flying the trip. I don't get your logic in how a swap board trip not picked up could potentially results in a GS? And yes, it's "THOSE GUY's TRIP" as you suggest. Let it sit on the swap board until the last day but when it comes down to the final hours and no one in base has picked up the swap board trip then what is the harm in having an out of base pilot pick it up. Out of base pilot scored a trip he wants and the guy wanting to drop his trip was able to drop his trip. Win/Win? If an out of base guy isn't allowed to pick up the trip you aren't preventing an in base GS.

With such statements as "Anyone who desires to be able to fly out of base swaps/pickups/slips is a greedy SOB who puts their wallet above the seniority list and manning levels of the pilot group. And should be beaten about the head and shoulders with a herring if not worse." You lose you credibility very quickly.

Last edited by TeddyKGB; 01-15-2015 at 10:52 PM. Reason: u