Originally Posted by
404yxl
Sorry, but you are wrong. Go read our contract and LOA on this matter.
"Pilots shall receive 4 hours pay and credit for each calendar day away from base with no duty assigned"
Why do you keep ignoring the "no duty assigned" part? That is the key to your understanding of why we can get paid 4:00 for a 2 day and 8:00 for a 3 day.
Again, for all of you confused, if we choose to get rid of the adtg, we do not get 4:00/day minimum. We will get... "4 hours pay and credit for each calendar day away from base with no duty assigned"
With your example of a 2 day, what your saying is confusing, are you referencing us DH on redeye's or us flying 2 days where we would be flying into the early morning hours thus covering 2 calendar days? Because if so yes, it can happen, but it is rare, we are talking < than .05% of the pairings...but it does happen
On three days with a 30 hour your saying we would only be paid 8 hours, if we only flew 2 duty periods, again one of which covers 2 calendar days? Again your referring to us doing redeye deadheads or flying early into the morning...
If I'm wrong with what I'm saying, provide examples...
I'm almost positive, I know you from the compasspilot forum and your trying to spread bad juju here, your talking about a very miniscule part of our operation, repo-ing, redeye's, and other flights that are scheduled rarely last minute, usually going to reserve pilots who will not break guarantee, I understand your argument, unlike most people, but the flights we operate 99% of the time, aren't covered in your theory...
Originally Posted by
Caution Terrain
Wouldn't there be a trip rig bargained for in lieu of ADTG? I get that it's not in the contract now, but wouldn't there be a better proposal put forward?
Per the union conference call the company is willing to give us the ADTG we currently have or 4 hour min duty day credit plus a credit of 4 hours on 30 hour layovers without a duty period applied to PBS...there are no alternatives, the company has admitted that they dragged there feet because of staffing issues which led to the ADTG, we would have to increase pilot staffing at CZ if we were to ditch ADTG, and in my opinion the more pilots the better...again our management wants ADTG, it benefits them, but not the overwhelming majority of the pilot group...