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Old 01-20-2015 | 08:07 AM
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eaglefly
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Originally Posted by oldnewguy
How many pilots are getting the bonus? and whats keeping those pilots from jumping ship as soon as they get it? How does Envoy plan on staffing if there is a mass exodus?
I think they all get the money for ratifying the most recent TA in exchange for concessions. Captains get more. I got the impression that the money isn't changing many minds to stay at Envoy vs. leaving and many of those who don't already have another job lined up are aggressively trying to. I don't think there will be a "mass exodus", just no change from the present 50-60/month exodus already occurring. If they can only put 3 or 4 in a new-hire class, I think that says everything one needs to know. At that rate, Envoy will collapse long before any theoretical stampede of new-hires arrives to save it. Seems like a long-shot bad bet to me to go here. If you've got no other offers and aren't concerned with risking a 121 training failure (every event is a risk) as a newbie to the airlines, I suppose going to Envoy and at least getting some Jet experience isn't a bad idea as long as you accept the likelihood you'll be doing that again within a year or two and may have gained no seniority advantage for the effort (unless Envoy gets merged instead of shut down).

It would seem that it's more attractive to let Envoy wither on the vine though as they have several hundred senior captains with no plans to go anywhere and I can't see Parker paying them their present big bucks when he doesn't have to. Think about this; If Envoy shrinks to say 1000 pilots, 500 will be captains and most, if not all will be topped out at 18 year scale.

I don't see that as being competitive and didn't Parker just demand and get concessions claiming that as the very reason ? I think he's just kicking the can (his specialty) until Envoy is small enough to dissolve. In the interim, he's just trimming costs as much as possible without beating the bushes to scare off the snakes too fast. Doesn't sound like the last part of that is working and so they're going to have to react sooner rather then later and that's not likely to be pretty or good for present Envoy pilots. For some reason, the vision of a piņata comes to mind...........

Last edited by eaglefly; 01-20-2015 at 08:23 AM.
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