Originally Posted by
gzsg
One of our pilots on the other forum said his rep confirmed the DALPA contract survey was in line with the DPA polling. 90% want to keep our profit sharing.
IMO Delta will easily make $6.5 billion in 2015 after stating they will gain $2 billion due to reduced fuel costs after their hedging losses.
It is time for our MEC chairman to change the message. Management is doing a great job of setting us up for concessions. Where is our message?
IMO Delta could makes $6 TRILLION and Rady and Buzz would still think we need to make concessions.
Pretty safe to say at $6.5 billion more concessions are not needed. Time to communicate and lead.
The most recent Delta stock buy back was complete one year early again. Another round will be announced in May. How about management hits the 2004 hourly rates before the next billion dollar return to the shareholders? We have given over $15 billion. I would say that puts us ahead of the shareholders. Enough is enough.
Are you saying these two are speaking in favor of getting rid of the PS?
I spoke directly with two other reps during my last trip. I cornered the guy that I thought floated a trial balloon via a third party. Neither would offer survey % on the PS, but then again both said that there is no movement to get rid of the PS. Neither was personally agreeable to getting rid of PS in any case.
Let's separate the identifiable issues:
1) You're trying to score political points against individuals.
2) You're trying to drive the agenda by setting priorities ahead of the MEC, and getting guys to call their reps based on rumors concerning your priorities.
3) The PS is an important component of our compensation. It might be technically "at risk", but it's also deferred compensation, it's clearly ours, and I happen to agree with you that it must remain untouched. Personally, I WANT upside protection, especially if I already paid for it.
So, I share your stance on #3. Not your interest in #1 and #2, however.
The way it was described to me, the MEC is still taking input. They are not at the direction stage, and those meetings are still ahead. They said they had no intention of getting rid of the PS. These guys did
not say that PS was more inviolate than any number of other priorities that were on the survey, because they can't, IMO. This is because we haven't even crafted an opener, much less
exchanged openers, so there is no way yet to tell what's on the table.
A rep that plainly tells you this isn't exciting, until you meet the other kind. When we went in CH11, I told one of the reps the issues that were absolutely worth shutting it down. I gave him #1. "Oh, we won't touch that under any circumstances. It's safe", he said. OK, #2? "We'll never touch that". #3? "Safe". Etc. I was "amazed" to know we'd go through CH11 without losing Scope, Work-rules, Retirement, or anything else, really. I was amazed at how stupid this guy thought I was, actually, telling me everything I wanted to hear. We all know how that story turned out.
We have those reps on property if you like them, guys that are never at fault for anything, never made any hard calls, were always set against stuff you don't like, and always for stuff you love. If you point out they didn't vote accordingly, they'll whisper it was someone else's fault. A conspiracy. But they have your back. Really.
What's everyone else hearing from reps? Is there anyone that wants to get rid of the PS?