Let's get one thing straight please. There is a significant difference between Ram (and I) and the truly senior guys. I'd say about 5 years. Ram and I are here because we were trapped by Sept 11. We were part of the "hire guys who will leave in 30 months so we can keep flying our check airmen lines" new hires. Please don't lump everyone who has been here longer than five years into the grouping of "I fly to Bogata or nowhere at all". There really is a difference.