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Old 02-04-2015 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
I'm not near year 12 and for my rate year its about $4+/hour less then GII F/O and about $9/hour less then GIII F/O, so I dont know where you're getting your data. If Parker wants to increase it in the future, I suppose he could, but we certainly won't be able to do anything but ask. In the past, when we've asked Parker, he said "no".
You are correct...it's about the 5-6 year point when Group II FO pulls away.

APA would do well to poll the membership about what issues were most important and attempt to craft a realistic bargain to present to the company. Perhaps higher Group I raises in exchange for slightly lower Group II-IV raises. Put more emphasis on work rules instead of pay rates, and so on.

A lot will depend on the financial and economic landscape in 2020. If times are still the same as now or better, I think the regionals will be hurting for bodies and the mainline may even feel the pinch as qualified new hires avoid AA or leave AA for DL, UA or even WN.

If the economic landscape is dreary, then obviously that will impact our ability to negotiate. We will just have to wait and see.
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