I hope you've got all your edits done, because I'd hate to be accused of misquoting you because I'm replying during the middle of another edit.


I did not search the TOS, because there is no TOS. Internet Brands has a Terms of Use page, and that's what I searched. Since you were so emphatic that the APC policy was clear, I thought perhaps there had been a recent change to add a clear "APC policy on scab naming" to the TOU. The rules have, after all, evolved over the years.


Are those passages in the Forum Owner's (Internet Brands') Terms of Use? No. In fact, the word "airline" is not in the TOU, much less "Airline Pilot Central Forums."

But, I do know where to find those passages. Those quotes come from an Announcement made by HSLD titled "Forum Rules." The Announcement appears above the list of thread titles on Forum Pages such as Major and Cargo and even Union Talk. (You won't find it on the "Search Results" page when you select "New Posts" like many people do most of the time.) But guess what does not appear in that announcement, even in the Union Talk forum. A clear "APC policy on scab naming" is not articulated in the Announcement. In fact, the word "scab" does not appear in the Announcement, in any forum.


So, while we know that Owners, Administrators, and Moderators have the right to remove, edit, move or edit threads, and to edit or remove posts, there is no mention of a clear "APC policy on scab naming." You stated ... wait, let me make sure I've got this right ...

awax asked for a link to the policy, saying he had never seen it posted. I observed that the policy is not stated in the ib Terms of Use. You can quote the whole TOU page if you like, but you haven't answered his question.

Here's a link to the Internet Brands Terms of Use.

Here's a link to the "Forum Rules" Announcement in the Union Talk Forum.

One cannot find a clear "APC policy on scab naming" at any of those places.


Oh, I'm quite familiar, thank-you-very-much. In fact, I was quite familiar and an active participant long before you registered your username at APC. There have been a lot of changes since then, and the rules and policies and terms have evolved as the site has grown, personnel have changed, and ownership has changed. But the question today, posed by awax, is, "Where is this clear APC policy on scab naming posted?"

Couldn't you be a helpful Moderator and point him to where the CLEAR policy is posted?

Instead, you offer only this?

Well, then it must be easy to find, and easy to link, right? That's all awax asked for -- just point us in the right direction, please.



Well, you see, I don't have any intention of posting a scab list, but your reference to posting one has me puzzled. You said:

Well, I know a name, and I can point it out on a scab list. But it doesn't make much sense for me to point to something here on my desk, or on my computer, or on my phone (I have several copies) when you can't see it there. In order to verify that I'm pointing to it on a scab list, it would only make sense that I share it here. After all, that's the instruction I'm reading in a "Mod note", right?

But don't worry, I've read the Terms of Use that the forum owner has posted.
A list of names associated with dates of birth, dates of employment, employee numbers, etc., discloses personal, confidential or proprietary information, and would therefore be a violation of Internet Brands' Terms of Use, even if you might think it's OK to post. That's why I found your instruction to be quite UN-clear, and possibly misleading. I thought by asking you the question about posting the scab list you might see the problem with your admonition.



So, the question remains ... what is the clear APC policy on scab naming?







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