Originally Posted by
Big E 757
What is the chit chat forum? Is that the DALPA forum? I stopped going there a long time ago.
Ok so I stand corrected. If they bring us a POS TA, we vote it down.
If this contract doesn't meet our expectations, in this environment if they can't negotiate an outstanding contract, they are done here at Delta.
They can act like they are smarter than me, and that they know what's best for me all day long and that doesn't bother me. All I care about are results, and if they don't produce results this time around, I am done with them and I suspect there are many others who feel the same way.
Define "results." Also if they are "done" who would you wish to replace them? DPA? Give me a break.
That said I agree that there is often an arrogance of "trust us, we know better" that needs to stop.
THAT said, despite the constant teeth-gnashing and boo-hooing you read in this place (which apparently is far more genteel and less toxic than the chit-chat site, which have I have never visited, nor ever will), DALPA has made a lot of very good, incremental gains on what I call the "margins" of the contract. The list is getting quite extensive, but it includes:
- 5.15 Calendar Day Average, which also applies to reserves (never happened before)
- Vacation Slide
- Vacation Any
- pos space deviating from deadhead on front and back end
- bidding for CQ
- Vac Slide across bid periods (I get both a Thanksgiving AND Christmas vacation in 2015 thanks to that nifty little feature)
- Hotel for qual training at your base (in earlier years if you were ATL based and had qual training, it was crash pad time)
- Hotel for CQ if you live more than 50 miles away
- PS travel for travel to CQ or qual training, even if training at your base
The list goes on. We did not have many of these things in C2K, and had NONE of them prior! The one work rule change that C2K had that was vastly superior to what we have now was the reroute rules. They rocked then, and suck now.
I expect my reps to put the pressure on the Negotiators to beef up pay, scope, and reroute protections. They shouldn't have to worry about too much else, as they have already greatly improved a lot of those things in earlier agreeements.