Upgrades will start coming down at Air Wisconisin. I'd rather have a better contract and a reasonable upgrade than a crapy contract with a fast upgrade. PIC time is not always important. I know several people that have got hired at legacy and LLCs with zero TPIC. Air Wisconisin guys are respected throughout the industry and even with one of the best contracts it is still far less than what we should be making. People need to stop gloating about their crappy contract and fast upgrades. Also jumpseat wars never end well. People need to show some respect or this industry will continue to be less and less attractive.