Old 02-15-2015 | 03:38 PM
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NineGturn
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Again I've never been a fan of the idea of a national seniority list either.

A couple points I missed earlier...

Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
...The vast majority of mainline pilots in the USA have benefited from it.
There! You said it...."the vast majority of mainline pilots" while ignoring the huge negative effect it has on the entire industry to benefit the few you mentioned. That's why I say get rid of the system where it doesn't work...at the regional level. They need the support and encouragement of the big unions for that.

There is no other simple way of allocating seats, schedules, vacation, etc. Or cementing unity and commitment.
I've also said that seniority should be restricted to type, base and seat which would serve these needs just fine...rewarding loyal employees without restricting their options.

Yes, the CEO may have a bargaining chip with the senior half of the list, but the system also fosters a solidified collective bargaining unit.
You don't need a seniority system to have a solid and strong union. They are not co-dependent.

I know of no ex-pat who wouldn't trade places with me in a heartbeat.
Again....that's the point!!! Because they can't even if you both wanted it.

Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
If a guy wants a free-for-all, "rugged individualist," job market where he can sell his superior skills to the highest bidder unshackled by the socialist fetters of seniority -- corporate aviation awaits.
You have probably used this phrase "rugged individualist" hundreds of times in these and other forums. You do realize that this phrase refers to the fundamental principals of a free and democratic market and is considered the opposite of communism right?
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