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Old 02-22-2015 | 04:11 PM
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lgaflyer
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Originally Posted by pitchtrim
Cause everyone knows the simulator is just like flying the real airplane right? Lands exactly the same I'm sure. Combine that with the added pressure of having people in the back, talking on the radios, having different crew members to work with, long days, bad weather, short overnights, and yes, some people can't do this job.

Regarding PVD, I didn't know the guy and have no idea if he was in the training department. He tried to save an airplane that was very unstable rather than follow procedures and crashed. We do go arounds in the sim every year for a variety of reasons, some of which are being unstable. Regardless how you feel they feel, it's your butt when you're flying the airplane. If you need to go around, go around. Are you going to crash and then blame the training department for not doing enough go around emphasis during your training? I've done 2 that I can think of that were due to the airplane getting unstable. Ridiculous winds for one and the other was due to some kind of wake from the guy in front of us. I didn't let go and say F this, I flew the plane and got out of there. And if my FO let go during either event, you can be sure I'd be calling up the training department to let them know the guy is unsafe.
The PVD capt was a training capt so by definition he was in the training dept. He took control from the FO but didn't GA. So why exactly was that?

The sim is supposed to mimic the real thing. that's why you can do your landing currency in one of those. There are also other pressure associated with being in sim as well, just different pressure associated with line flying. You admited you dont know half the people in the tng dept. I can only speak from personal experience and what I have seen and been told which is more recent and more relevant to new hire. My partner was horrible at flying this jet too. He made it. How do you explain the different outcomes between our partners?

Like I said before, if they release someone who abandon control at 50ft, then its another crack in training dept. I never said I woudnt go around if I have to. If the app is stable, there must be a way for a TRAINER to make someone comfortable enough to come down from 50ft!
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