Not that it matters, but 2017 is when the leases start expiring on the planes that are not owned which is about half. This info is all available in SECs reports. I would believe SEC documents over what Joe Blow says in the training department. American will not have a single operating certificate until the fall at the earliest which is also found in SEC reports. The pilot group might have a shot at increasing the SSP numbers and/or getting the SSP changed to a flow, but it won't happen tell 2016 at the earliest.