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He couldn't pass his checkride, the company gave him several chances with different instructors. A lot of the 146 guys struggled several were let go.
He went nuts, the company knew he was an FFDO and reported it. The manager who reported it was the guy who hired me. Couldn't have been a nicer guy at that company (he now works for the FAA).
This lawsuit was more about giving airlines immunity for reporting incidents like the above than defamation.
If an armed pilot went nuts on the staff, and boarded a flight soon afterward, would you want him on your flight? We don't even allow drunk people on board.
This incident has absolutely nothing to do with initial training and the failure rate. There is one guy on here who had issues with training yet the vast majority of us on here had zero and in fact praise the training there.
I knew guys who failed checkrides at AWAC. All of them, in one way or another, deserved it. Sorry that's harsh, but it's reality.
If you have the physical ability to fly the airplane, and the attitude that you want to be there, you'll make it.
When I went through, I had a green instructor, and had the hardest checkpilot at the time (Clint M...back then he was a hard ass) and both my sim partner and I both passed no issues.
Yeah, it appears your information is not accurate. Hoeper was a great guy, in fact he was a great instructor. Fact he won the defamation law suit, that fact was never disputed by the supreme court. The supreme court stated that airlines have immunity in such cases. Does not make it right, it just makes it the law. The supreme court did NOT rule that Hoeper was not defamed.
People can drink the cool aid all they want regarding their employers. Good for you that you are treated fairly by your employer, many other employees are not. In many places Managers just are after certain people, trying to find a "legitimate" excuse to fire someone.
the Facts appear to show that Hoeper "failed his check ride" then WAS BOOKED POSITIVE SPACE after "failing the check ride" then the defamation call was made to the TSA. If the above is true why would any manager book positive space to an employee they believed was mentally unstable and "believed to be carrying"? Why? (one theory is it was done to embarrass Hoeper)
Hmm is it lawful for anyone to carry while on a training event? After the authorities caught up with him on the airplane was he carrying? NO
Just read the case law through colorado, not just the supreme court ruling.
Once again he won his defamation lawsuit, the supreme court ruled that airlines have immunity in such situations. Immunity, similar to a diplomat in the usa. Diplomats may not be prosecuted for crimes.
Please dont drink the coolaid and defame this great man again. He did nothing to you.