If that wasn't clear, I was talking about RAH to F9. kspilot, I'm not claiming to have all the facts and I'm trying to keep it civil. I'm in the know enough to know that the general perception amongst RAH pilots is don't waste your time applying to F9 because you'll get nowhere - you're not hireable. If true that would be a heck of a grudge to hold. I'd like to be proven wrong.