Originally Posted by
HuskerAv8tor
Lets put it this way....and notice my avatar when you read this. I have had some rough days with less pay. Now, so you're feelings aren't offended, I believe we are very highly trained and deserve more. Don't tell me how stressed you are though. This job consists of showing up on time doing the job we were trained for and going home.
Oh I noticed your avatar. So does that mean I can call you EightGturn?
I'm not stressed when I am flying over the North Atlantic or the Pacific rim...bored maybe, not stressed.
What is your purpose with your trash talk trying to keep regional pilots in their place? Are you somehow threatened that regional pilots may prove to be better than you? Do you feel anyone who hasn't served is beneath you and shouldn't speak out or stand up for what they believe? It's just bizarre that's all. I'm not threatened and you can't bully me.
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Getting back on topic....scope and seniority go hand in hand as I've said before. Seniority at regionals is just a massive B scale that management created using the existing age old system of seniority at airlines as an enabler. Scope is the tool they use to create the B scale.
Regional jets were initially designed with scope in mind and under the direction and guidelines of the mainline airlines, not regionals. The mainlines knew they could use these jets to replace the aging smaller DC-9-10, Fokker 100s, and 737s they were using at lower seat mile costs with an already established structure of low pay at commuter airlines that flew small fleets of turboprops in "regional" locations around the country.
Back in the old days before internet and advanced real time pricing designed to fill airplanes, the airlines operated under the philosophy of "load factors" and aimed to make a profit with about 60-70% full flights on average. So essentially a small DC-9 was similar to a 50 seat jet today in mission capability except the 50 seater is significantly more efficient to operate...especially on one hour segments.
Mainlines just realized that they can keep pushing this model and all these 70-90 seat jets can literally take over routes that used to be flown by 737s and MD-80s carrying the same number of passengers by pushing near 100% capacity. Pilots forget how much more efficient airlines are at selling capacity these days...that is until you try to send your family standby somewhere. It used to be a rare thing to have a full flight.
Mainline pilots fail to fully realize just how far they've sold out the bottom halves of their companies with scope. They are brainwashed into thinking regional jets (they're not even regional jets anymore) are "beginner airplanes" and not worth having in their fleet. They fail to see they are just a massive B scale for their own pilots to fly routes they used to fly at mainline. And the added bonus for mainline is they can hire new pilots much later in their careers so they may never even see 20 year pay scales before they retire and if they do it will be for less time.
Now that 50 seaters are being phased out and some airlines (Mesa) aren't even operating jets that small anymore the stage is being set to push scope even farther. The only obstacle that remains is the supply of low cost pilots to fly them.
This is why I say now is the time for the pilots (especially regionals) to take back control of their unions and force the airlines' hand. There has never been a better opportunity to kill this thing and force the flying back to the mainline.