Originally Posted by
3inthegreen
Just curious how far out they are scheduling classes right now and where they are at with hiring numbers. Have an interview next week, I am wondering at this point if the qol/upgrade wave has long since crested? Hypothetically if someone got hired today how would things look moving forward if classes kept being filled?
I don't know how far out the classes are right now, but I don't think it's past May. If you get hired, volunteer to take an early class and you may sneak into a March-April class.
150 flow pilots will be removed from the top of the list starting April 1 through November 1, at a pace of 20 a month, which requires 20 line pilots/month added until 150 are added. We need to add 20 line pilots/month starting March 1 for approximately 10 months until we add 200 total for the AA flying. We have probably added 200 out of the 350 required. That number may include those in March.
650 is their end number with non-flying pilots included. We probably are around 650 pilots right now (500 active, rest in training and off line) and need to hire another 150 for the flow and AA growth. You can almost think of it as though we need to grow to 800 to account for the 150 flow pilots leaving. After that, all hiring is for regular attrition, which they are planning on 50/year (probably higher).
To figure out where you will sit, take the current seniority list (650) and add 40/month past March through July and roughly 10/month after that for you to start. Take that number and minus 150 for your November number to account for all the 150 flow pilots departing by November. Divide that by 650 and there is your rough seniority % at the beginning of November. 1-5 non-flow pilots will likely leave monthly, so you can probably account for that too by subtracting 175-200 instead for your November number.
Anyone hired in the next 1-5 months will gain seniority at the behest of the flow pilots leaving and the AA growth. After that, you will gain seniority based on normal attrition, which is increasing. No one hired now can hold captain based on being 50% or higher, but with all those lacking minimums, if you have the minimums, chances are you will hold captain within months of being hired. You will be junior to all those that bypassed once they upgrade though.