Originally Posted by
Flyby1206
Yes. But in 2014 there were 2-3 people out of the 300+ that did get it!
You'd be able to hold LGB within 8mo-1year though.
* If you bid or are assigned the 320. If you get stuck on the 190, you'll probably be able to hold it as soon as your equipment lock is up. If you want FLL or LGB, bid whatever base you can on the 320. If you want MCO, I think the 190 is still the fastest way to the base.
Originally Posted by Beechnut 58
New hire pay was just changed. From a value of $3571 to $2857. You will be given a meal voucher of $1066 or $26/day. If you do not use all of this it can NOT be redeemed for cash. Bad news bears.....
This is a cash change of -714 a month.
And see, this is what gets me on union and company emails. Both swap things around to suit their needs. I don't really give a rats what my "value" was as a new hire. What is included in that figure? Cause in CASH, I was paid $2500 a month before tax. I could eat the free BBQ the first night and then free breakfast and the occasional manager reception at the Staybridge. I'm assuming those are included in the "value" since my pay was not $3571. Was my room also included in the "value?" All I know is I was not paid $3571 a month, yet the union is making it sound that way to prove some point I'm not aware of.
In fact, it's spelled out in the PEA. "Initial Training Pay. The Pilot shall receiver $2500 per month plus lodging during the pilot's initial training." So, we've either got people writing e-mails thinking our PEA has been changed without our knowledge, the company changing the PEA without our knowledge (which is illegal at this point) or our union leaders are spinning the data to rile people up. My bet? It's the last one, which is EXACTLY what I didn't want to happen and why I was hesitant on voting "yes" to ALPA in the first place.
So, my bet is the new "value" is based on lower costs involved with moving people over to the lodge. Instead of free breakfast and a manager's reception at the hotel (or not if you get stuck at the LaQuinta), they're offsetting it with a meal voucher. Personally, I don't really know since neither the union or the company has revealed what is included in a new hire's "value" past the check that gets cut. New hires will still get $2500 a month and apparently $26/day as a meal voucher on top of that. So, in fact, guys are getting more than we used to, but damn if the union isn't trying to make it sound like we're getting less.
Read between the lines people. Don't just blindly accept what the company OR the union tell you in some e-mail. Now, if the company DOES kill the $6k bonus, that's gonna be a bad move. The point of that was to avoid another mass lawsuit by changing new hire pay like we had a few years back, but it was also to make up for the fact that the first year guys weren't getting a raise. It also doubles as a retention "don't bail to Delta, please!" check. That needs to stay.