Originally Posted by
AZFlyn1
I never said anyone was a saint pal, don't put words in my mouth.
I'm just making the same point as you, although not being descriptive enough. What I'm saying is that JA is just as bad as JO. It's a matter of perspective. You and I have different perspective yet you compare one management more favorably than another and I don't. They both suck.
Originally Posted by
velosnow
Sure, it's utopian - but to start pilots actually start paying attention to their careers and not voting only thinking of themselves. The apathy at OO is strong, but other places as well. Even if you don't like your union (or lack thereof) participating, seeing the big picture, taking the long view and having a voice is key.
Then we figure out a national seniority list and unionize every 121 pilot.
See? Easy!

Well, you need to start by certifying SAPA as your NMB recognized bargaining agent. Until then, it's just words. And that is a lot easier than the utopia you described. But it is a must if you even want to contribute to protecting these jobs.