True those point towards concessionary, but when I look at what was passing around the same time I think we got out at about breakeven. Our hourly rate which is very important to me is still higher than most and we aren't capped to 4 year FO pay or 12 year CA pay like other places.

We def had the wool over our eyes if we knew what the company's plan was for the EMB, we thought we were helping the EMB guys out meanwhile that was just the little nudge of pilots they needed to pass it.

It could def have been a lot worse.