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Old 03-29-2015 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by McBoeingBus
Just a little more to think about, the retirement piece is correct from what I understand. There is currently a 12% "B" fund that is based on your income. Anecdotally, my friends who are UPS captains tell me that they make about 300K while the FOs are a little short of 200K. So there is an immediate 100K incentive to upgrade as well as the ability to hit the IRS cap for defined contribution plans...
I think you're missing the point. We don't need any incentives, they're there already but many simply won't have the option to upgrade. A large percentage of FOs won't upgrade not because they're bypassing by choice but because they'll turn 65 before they'll have a chance to do so.

This is not about needing an incentive, this is about the present realities. 5 days ago I had a conversation with a guy about just that. He'll turn 65 in 7 years. Optimistically speaking he's at least 10-11 years from earliest possible left seat (any domicile/any airplane, qol not even being considered). So he'll retire as an fo which he's ok with. However, for the rest of his life his pension will be 20% less than if he'd been a captain for a single day. That's what I call the secondary B-plan and it should be changed because so many new-hires nowadays are older than in the past.
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