Originally Posted by
TeamRamRod
I really don't see why this is such a HUGE deal that you have to pay for 1 hotel room in your 3 months of training.
You do realize that most regional FOs have large amounts of debt that they incurred to get their ratings. Most I have talked to, including myself, have around $600-$800/month student loan payments. So with making around $1,000/month take home, how do you expect them to make a budget to eat, pay their bills and pay for hotels? This is a profession that takes years of training and great deal of money to even get to the level of regional FO. You should not be expected to go into further debt to accept the job. Trans States' and all other airlines goal should be to make it so that new hires have nothing to worry about except passing training. Putting food on your table or defaulting on your debts should not be something you are concerned about.
I am really hoping the union negotiating committee focuses on improving the compensation and training pay for first year pilots. If TSA wants to continue to attract new hires, it is something that definitely needs to be addressed.
Originally Posted by
TeamRamRod
Last time I checked, Delta new hires are paying for their lodging in training. Don't see them being ridiculed or have a shortage of applicants. I haven't voted in concessions, chief, so the "pilots like me…" line is invalid.
Yeah, comparing Delta to any regional carrier is ridiculous as they start you off at $70/hr during training. I also believe it is wrong and one of the reasons Delta isn't number 1 on my list. Delta and formerly Compass were an outlier and definitely not industry standard as well.
Originally Posted by
TeamRamRod
If it's so damn bad at TSA in your mind, then why did you leave your previous company? Again, if it's so bad, stop complaining, and go back to your multiple regional carriers you've got experience at. This sh!t gets old after awhile. Flying with a guy that has a perfect opportunity to go from sitting in the right seat at his previous company for 6 years and he's now sitting in the left seat here, with someone senior to him in the right seat, and all he can do for 2 hours in cruise is trash the company that's giving him said opportunity.
Are you the same person that hears people complain about the way the government is doing things and tells them to shut up and leave if they don't like it? Civil discourse is necessary for positive changes to occur. Maybe you should listen to those that have years of experience in the industry and a wealth of knowledge. I'm guessing you are new and have very little experience; maybe you should put down the kool-aid.
You among others have talked about the positive changes that have occurred at Trans States since a large amount of Comair furloughs made their way here. They brought their experience, knowledge and new ways of doing things with them. Your goal should be to find ways to take the best practices from these CQFOs' other companies and incorporate them in at Trans States. From day one, the training department was in our new hire class asking questions of the CQFOs and the way they did things at their last airlines. They recognized the fact that the CQFOs had valuable experience that they could use as a resource.
Maybe you should start asking what can I learn from this person. Whether you like it or not, the CQFOs are a part of Trans States and are here to stay.