Ill be honest, I didnt think you were joking, so I apologize. If I'm wrong, I'll admit to it. That bein said, we shouldn't be thinking of giving up anything. Just like others have said, scope needs to be addressed, ltd needs to be improved, pay needs improving, rigs, etc. heck the only thing that don't is our five days off. Wait, that needs improving to. We gave up on the distance learnin I really think we coulda got a little more,maybe not in the distance learning portion, but in gains in other areas. We let that oppurtunity slip by let's not do it again.