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Old 03-31-2015 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by DenverPilot8
The thing is man that I get that every person will be in a different situation and will have different goals and reasons to come here. But the attitude that we should just plan better and deal with poverty wages and our own hotel costs (IOE) is plain insanity. I'm so tired of this attitude. It's great that you were able to make your car payments during training man. Thumbs up to you. But the fact that you are defending $500 paychecks for 3 months is crazy. "just plan better"?? seriously? Is it just me or is this the very reason why the pay and wages are so low to begin with. As long as there are people who not only accept it but are proud to get through it nothing will change. We need more people to come here. You should be advocating change for the better not telling people why its acceptable. Jesus.
Dude get it into your mother fukking skull, read my post. I NEVER said it can't be better, that it was ideal, or that I was happy with it. But the damn company and Union isn't going to change our training pay in the middle of a contract because a few keyboard warriors are complaining on here about it. All I'm trying to do is offset some of your guys' comments which are undoubtedly deterring people away from coming here because of 3 months of low pay. Whether it's buying groceries during training instead of going to TGIF every day, not taking down a 6 pack of beer every night, there are ways to cut costs. That's all I was saying. You have to alter your lifestyle a little for 3 months to get thru it, but you'll do just that, get thru it.

Why do you want me to do to advocate change? Go March a protest, Ferguson style, on HQ and demand we change training pay yesterday? The "pilots like you caused this problem" crap is getting extremely old. You wanna look at the problem? The pilots that vote on these contracts are so far out of initial training that they don't bat an eyelash at the fact that training pay is subpar, because they are NEVER going to have to live thru it again. And I'll guarantee if they offered $35/hr first year pay instead of changing how much we get paid during training, everyone would be scrambling to circle yes. It's 9 months vs 3 months.

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