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Originally Posted by
SkyHigh
Years ago during a simulator session some UAL guys explained to us that they did not study in preparation for recurrent checks or for proficiency because as they explained, "if the company had wanted us to study they would have built credit hours into the schedule for it". Essentially they were not getting paid to study so they were not going to do it.
The prospective of aviation was more professional and not the working hobbyist/religious zealot as it is today. When I started aviation my aim was that of a professional practitioner and not as a starry eyed dreamer. It was the same as with my peers and instructors. They told us that "getting there is not half the fun but all of it". It was common knowledge that flying part 121 was boring, unfulfilling, and completely void of fun. One did it for the wages, benefits and access to a better life. Any suggestion that the job was "fun" was scab talk.
Had we known that aviation was going to devolve into a martyrs paradise none of us would have taken our first lesson. We had lives and dreams to provide for. So long as people will accept as compensation "fun" flying will continue to loose ground as successive generations come prepared to undercut the previous one just to get into the saddle.
Old union pilots would not do anything more than what they were paid to do. Plumbers don't subscribe to "Plumbers World" magazine nor do they do anything for free and that is the attitude of a professional. You set the value of your worth.
Skyhigh[/QUOTE
Then you made a great decision Sky and I for one, am very happy for you but, in all honesty you are full of so much $% it makes one wonder how you get through a day. Get over it, people have made it in the airline industry and no matter how much you try to convince people otherwise they will continue to make it. Keep up with the half truths and don't acknowledge the obvious successes, you're very good at that.
Brianb,
Buddy, Hey there. I don't bemoan trust fund kids for having a little fun.
"I must study politics and war, that our sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy. Our sons ought to study mathematics and philosophy, geography, natural history and naval architecture, navigation, commerce and agriculture in order to give their children a right to study painting, poetry, music, architecture, statuary, tapestry and porcelain.” - John Adams
Your parents earned it you might as well enjoy it. What I can't abide by are the suburban kids who are lured into going six figures in debt for a dream that most likely can not be for them. Lambs to the slaughter. You can always go back to work at the furniture store if you want to. Guys like me do not have sponsorship or a safety net. We have to go down with the ship.
What I meant was that I have been at APC long before most anyone here and I am not so sure that I have not been flying before you either. I can't believe that someone who is my age or older could possibly hold such youthful views of the world.
Skyhigh