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Old 04-06-2015 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Karnak
Yup. For all airlines. Our formula, and historic payouts, lead the industry.
That's correct. But I don't think even you would make the claim that makes us the industry leader in Section 3.

Originally Posted by Karnak
Or we could look at our compensation, as in W2. A bottom line value. For hours flown last year by peers, who do you suppose had the highest W2 for hours flown?
That wasn't in the contract comparison Karnak, so we'd both be guessing. I'd guess it was a FedEx or Southwest guy.

Originally Posted by Karnak
Except you ignored the note in the Contract Comparison explaining the 5:39 ADG.
Here's the note that Karnak thinks I've ignored. For Southwest, ADG says: "5:39**". In the notes column right next to it, the note says: "**Based on 6.5 TFP's". Southwest has an ADG of 5:39 while Delta has an ADG of 5:15. That's why I said Southwest has a higher ADG than Delta.

Originally Posted by Karnak
You also chose to ignore the impact of FAR117 on the "potential" ADG at SWA. Ignoring them is ok, but they don't go away - or cease to relevant when making comparisons.
Spin all you like Karnak, it doesn't change the facts.

Again, I didn't get my data from you, I got my data from the DALPA contract comparison.

Originally Posted by Karnak
Ok. So if we trade our augmentation triggers to match the rest of the industry, you'll be cool with it? You won't point out where we had been leading the industry in augmentation (and widebody staffing)? Something tells me you wouldn't be calling it "debatable".
Crew augmentation is only one aspect of work rules. We lead in that aspect, but lag in all the others. Southwest and UPS lead in Work Rules. Leading in one paragraph of an entire section does not make you the industry leader in that section.

Carl
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