Originally Posted by pilotjockey

two answers

in this thread, no thats impossible. carl said it would be zero because we cant cost that and that ra would tell the shareholders to expect no profits

in the real world, yes i expect we will see the ptix in the 6-7 range this year and next that will translate to about a 20 percent ps payment and alpo better not give that away to fund other improvements

more than happy to move a big chunk into hard pay but that can only happen separately and on top of our next contract and better not be hidden, big no vote and dpa card going in if it gets brushed under the rug like c2012

i dont like leaving such a big piece of my income at the hands of good or bad management decisions yes i know its in their hands already to a large extent, bk laws aint what they used to be and without a pension to steal ill take as much money in my own name as soon as possible as often as possible.

i dont trust big ps longterm things cuz things go bad, my pension, furlough, SLI and merger "targeting" have proved that

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

Of course I or RA wouldn't say that. The only correct answer to that question would be: "There's no way to determine next year's profit sharing cost because we don't know what the profit will be...or if they'll be one."

It would be a similar answer if a shareholder demanded to know what next year's fuel costs will be. Or next year's maintenance costs.