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Old 04-13-2015, 11:18 AM
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Carl Spackler
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob View Post
Carl,
While I don't have the regs in front of me, a RTG to put more passengers on would definitely require a call to the dispatcher and departing without it could lead to FAA action against you. Think about it. You put more bodies and weight on the airplane. Your takeoff data is now voided and you would be taking off with invalid numbers. Think the FAA doesn't care about that? We used to have the 1000# slop to cover this, but no more. In the end though, why would you need to know the actual regs wording? Common sense dictates the call. You changed the condition of the original release by returning. CYA at a minimum.
I agree, but that wasn't the case with us. Those four business folks were supposed to be on that airplane and were on the SPIL because they were first class. The actual pax count equaled the weight data pax count for just that reason. Had the agent been successful in keeping them off the flight, we probably would have gotten an amended weight data and pax count on taxi out.

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