Astounding really.

You are now going to take the customer base and constituency of DALPA, the ever harder working revenue generating line pilots, and divide the into winners and losers vis a vis our contract negotiations!

Holy schitt! It should be the goal that after reaching a TA that there are no winners and losers, only winners. Then you know you have a good contract agreement.

You know when you have an excellent one? When you can step back and say with a smile on your face that the TA "stands in it's own merits" much like was done in C2K.

But to come here on the eve of attaining our next agreement and categorize your customers as winners and losers is beyond arrogant.

Wake up renob!

The DPA got nearly enough cards for a vote. Does that not even register with you still? I have been an ALPA member, supporter and volunteer for going on 26 years. I followed intently during that challenge by the DPA , listened to their grievances, lots of them petty some of them significant, and carefully weighed the evidence.

My conclusion was that Dalpa was and is our best choice. That being said, it has been subverted by a group of individuals, whose motives that are self serving at best, to an extent that it compromises the goals and aims of the institution. There were appeals by Dalpa that they understood some of the criticisms and that they were going to be addressed. I, for one, believed that to be true.

Apparently not.

Your statement is perfect crystal clear proof of that. It is not functioning as a bottom up organization. It's the Cabal vs everyone else. My belief was that even though Dalpa is a far superior choice over DPA, there is lots of room for reform and change within the association. Most obviously is the need for a change in who is in some of the leadership and committee positions.

Here is the bottom line. If a screwed up leader like Caplinger can muster up a near miss like he did, the next one up is not going to make the same mistakes.

Kind if like Parker and his severely lacking plan at making a run at Delta. He learned from it and executed flawless at AMR. Take the combination of people like you Karnak who haven't learned and consider themselves politically entrenched and bullet proof. When another group that is organized, on message and exploits the issues where you all have made promises and failed, and add a respected and organized group of leaders, and not just is Dalpa done, ALPA will be as well.