Originally Posted by Timbo

Go back and reread the first sentence of my second paragraph.

Nobody I've flown with (and I've been doing 4 pilot 15-18hr. trips for 12 years, as both MD11 F/O and 777 Capt.) "likes" flying those long legs. What they Like is all the time off it generates, because it is the most efficient way to fill up your month, more days off at home, to sail, I mean recover.

I waste very little time sitting around airports waiting on a late airplane, like I did on Domestic. The flip side is, I get very few landings, one a month, if that, and that's what we all like to do the most, right?

I feel pretty good after I come home from a trip, but only because we have a very nice rest facility on the 777, away from the cabin, where you can actually get some real sleep. It's dark, it's quiet, and it's horizontal.

When I was on the 767 ER going to Europe, trying to sleep in the cabin, with the bright lights on, next to a passenger who would hit my seat buttons instead of his, or snore, or poke me in the ribs with his elbow, and the F/A's would bump into me with the carts, and drop dishes, and make PA's, I too felt like crap for a day or two after every trip. I wasn't getting anywhere near the rest I get now.