If they do another buyout, I want to see concrete timelines for those who take it to leave the airline. In the past, and currently, there are pilots who took buyouts, then remained on the line earning a salary, because we were 'short staffed'. How did that help me again? I'm sorry, but working until you are 65 AND taking a buyout isn't fair. I don't care if we're short LCA's, or whatever. Put out a bid now, start training, THEN offer the buyout.