Old 04-19-2015, 04:05 AM
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sailingfun
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Originally Posted by Typhoonpilot View Post
But it's okay for Cathay Pacific to have 100 widebodies and Singapore Airlines to have 100 widebodies?

Could ATL, CLT, DTW, SEA, and many other U.S. hubs support the number of flights they have from a single airline based on the size of those cities?

See the point?, your above argument is fatally flawed. Hubs are the name of the game these days. The ME3 can support those numbers because of their near perfect geographical position. Emirates was the first to truly recognize it. Etihad, Qatar, and now Turkish are expanding on it. They are serving 4 billion people within an 8-9 hour flying radius of their airports. This compared to the 1 billion or less within 8-9 hours of U.S. hub airports.

Those are just the plain simple facts. The U.S. carriers just don't have the geographical position to serve some of the markets as efficiently as the ME3.

You complaint about their size also does not take into consideration the small percentage of their route network and revenue that North America represents. In earlier posts I pointed out that, as an example, the number of aircraft in Emirates fleet to serve their current U.S. flights was something like 15% and total revenue was something similar. So you would punish them for being good at running an airline on the other 85% of their flying not involving the USA?



Typhoonpilot
No one really cares about everything you are posting. What we care about is that when we compete with Middle East carriers it's with the understanding that the carriers are on equal footing. Delta as a example does not fly any route that is not profitable or forecast to be profitable in a reasonable time frame. The audit of Emirites flights paints a very different picture. It's not rocket science to look at the average loads and yield per flight to make a reasonable conclusion on giant subsidies.
Milan to JFK is just one of hundreds of flights that is a perfect example. 777 charging around 800.00 with a 40% load factor!
Wait however there is more! THEY ARE UPGRADING IT TO A A380!
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