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Old 04-19-2015, 09:27 AM
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RockyBoy
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Originally Posted by Sink r8 View Post
Cause we asked for it?

We've always been clamoring for more productive days. Guys would get on here, and say that don't care how hard they work when they're at work, they want more days off. Now we got ADG 5:15. We should be thrilled, right?

The problem is, Carmen, or whatever the system is called, isn't going to give you a bunch of credit time for the purpose of commuting. It's going to build a lot of flying into the first and last days of your rotation, especially short rotations, to avoid credit time. It's also going to try to do more duty periods than calendar days in the same rotation.

There is an inherent conflict between getting more minimum credit per day, and making the first and last day commutable. We simply need to know what we want to prioritize. I think most guys want as high a credit time as possible, and keep their fingers crossed that the trips will come out commutable, even though they know there is no logical reason they would.
The problem is that we simply don't get a high enough hourly rate. If we all could make more than an average middle class income we wouldn't need to work as much as we do.

Back in the day it was a full month to do 3 4-day domestic trips. Now you have to do 4. Also those 3 trips were typically commutable, now the 4 we have to do start at 0500 and get done at 2000.

Every contract we get "better" work rules, but the company exploits them to make them cost neutral and we get screwed.

Won't be long until we are all doing 4 5-day trips a month to make what our neighbors who manage Wal-Mart make.

How about we stop getting more "efficient" work rules and just make them pay us in rates? I would rather do 3 4-day trips a month than 4 5-day trips a month for the same pay.
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