Originally Posted by
iaflyer
Non-commutable trips are not necessarily a by-product of a higher ADG. In my opinion, it's that the trips are poorly constructed.
Case in point on my last 3 day trip - the first two days were flew 7.1 hours each day, but the last day we didn't leave the overnight until 5pm, and flew 3:20 back to base, getting in at 8:45.
I don't think we specify in our contract that trips have to be "well-constructed", that the company would have to comply with. If we want to add something in, we need to discuss what that means, exactly. I think we could conceivably increase the ADG further, or add/modify other parameters. You just need to tell me what those are.
As far as your last trip, I don't know how they could have modified it in a way that changed your departure for your benefit, or the impact on another rotation. I'd have no way to tell.
It is my understanding that the system is trying to design the least amount of credit time. So you need to look at a number of trips to get a sense of the impact of certain changes. Based on what I'm seeing, since FAR 117 + higher ADG incentivizes and permits longer days, that's exactly what we're getting. Logic tells me that this means less commutable options. The latest memo on the 7ER and 73N trips validates it.