There is nothing logical about your post. If MD was speaking to anyone it was probably you. Tons of folks voted against C2k. Now they hail it as the Holy Grail. Everything DALPA has put out this time seems focused. Pilot Input-MEC Direction-Neogtiating Committee-Follow the Process. RLA/NMB we are stuck with. Dec 31 2012 was our last amendable date. We are now 28 months past that amendable. That is about how long industry contracts have typically taken to negotiate during my career. We are BACK in negotiations with a vastly different company and I expect us to do set the industry bar...AGAIN. If anything our problem is that C12 has held up pretty well vs our industry comparisons. I was expecting a little more help from AMR/UAL/SWA. This is business. Vote as you wish, but when when I get a vote I'll make a "business" decision. OFG