This conversation makes me laugh.... Good thing we aren't having it in 2001 or 2009!! I remember an acquaintance and FO of mine who was former military and VERY right wing republican. Talked constantly about crappy social programs, freeloaders, etc... very much like this conversation. And then he got furloughed. No flying jobs to be found. I noticed he didn't turn down the unemployment bennies. I also noticed he didn't object when they extended them.