Thanks Timmy for helping get the point across. I thought for a second that i was going to get tar and feathered. Personally i feel much more confident knowing at least the little bit that I do about flying VOR's and tuning them in intersecting them. stuff like that. But like i said i don't look at it in a sense of oh i could go jump in a cessna and do it blind folded i look forward to learning in more. I just want the headsup and knowledge so its at least someone familiar and easier for me to comprehend.