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Old 04-29-2015 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
That's fine. Let's first negotiate C15 as a standalone product.

Then, and only then, should we consent to exploring the possibility of trading profit sharing for rates. Same for the JV grievance. There must be three separate transactions.
So you're okay with PS and the JV grievance being done by the MEC as an LOA and a grievance settlement? I thought maybe you'd like to vote on them.

Originally Posted by Purple Drank
If we allow the company to roll PS into C15...we get rolled.
I'm not that pessimistic. I like the idea of all of the "active" elements being settled and submitted to the pilot group for ratification. I don't see as much discussion and engagement by the rank-and-file if the 3 items you mentioned are separated and handled individually.

I get that you don't trust ALPA. That's your burden.

Originally Posted by Purple Drank
I don't understand why so many guys are so anxious to push us away from PS.
I can only speak for me. I think it's important, and would vote NO if it were eliminated. I also think it is vulnerable. I think the industry is cyclical and vulnerable. I don't think pay rates are as vulnerable. If you do, then we're going to have to disagree on that.
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