Originally Posted by LeineLodge

I love this argument. It's unproveable.

You could be right. Hell, PD might even be right. The fact is we will never know since the majority of the pilot group voted in the last agreement in 2012.

Maybe we could have had our cake and eaten it too. Maybe not. I do know that you and I are both benefiting from a category that DID NOT EXIST prior to C2012. Yes it might have happened anyways. Yes we could have called the bluff and it might have come to fruition. Some/All/None were all possibilities. You're too smart to ignore the possibility that it could be slightly different. To assume that we could have just said no and gotten more is just as speculative as to say we had we voted not (as a group) that we would have been sent to NMB purgatory. The point is...nobody knows.

We could still be spitting distance of the bottom of the list under the JPWA. OR you could "man up" (see Karl and PD I do have sense of humor) and bid NYC CA and GTFO my way