Originally Posted by
duece12345
I agree with this. Am I for recovery obligations? Hell no. But I could care less about protecting a good deal for a small number of pilots that should move on anyways. I know, I know. Choices, and that opens up capt seats to jr guys, you can do this too when you are a senior FO, etc. maybe this will creat faster upward movement for the "other" 90% of F/Os. Whether you like it or not, there are quite a few jr FOs that I know of that agree with this.
This will NOT create faster upward movement for anyone. This is about MANNING.
Think about what the company is looking at in the next 10 years, manning wise. Huge retirements. Huge training. Huge hiring.
Take a look at the A/E that is posted today. Imagine if all of those positions did NOT require double manning for IOE flights. How many bodies does that save the company from hiring?
If the company is allowed to pull trips out of the bid package, and hold them back for 'IOE', that's a lot LESS manning they need in every category. Captains as well as F/O's.
New Captains need IOE too you know. What if the company pulls all of those 'training trips' from the bid package and never awards them?
Yeah... they don't need XX% pilots to cover that flying.... which will then be covered by IOE's.
This is less about guys sitting home and getting paid, then it is about how many guys the company needs to staff every category.
You guys are only looking at the short term; who gets to stay home and get paid. The Company is looking at how many guys they will need to staff every category going forward. THEY KNOW who is retiring, and when, THEY KNOW how many pilots they will need to hire to replace them, and how many guys are going to sit home for IOE's.
MANNING is what this is about.
HIRING is what this is about.
ADVANCEMENT is what this is about.