Originally Posted by
Skyvector
If flows are a gimmick then why are all you PSA sallys desperately trying to get one? Why is your recruiter getting up and begging the CEO of AA for an Envoy style flow? Because it's a gimmick? Get real.
See that's the problem with being a PSA cheerleader. Eventually you are backed into a corner and begin speaking out both sides of your mouth. I know it's tough to be at PSA and looking at a 20 years before getting the privilege to interview (not flow) at AA. If anything, THAT is a gimmick. Meanwhile Envoy is sending 30 pilots a month to American Airlines with NO interview. Just flowing like a base transfer.
Now I'm sure you are a relatively smart guy. I'm also sure you have a calculator. If Envoy is at 1200 to 1500 pilots, at 30/month going to AA how long will it take to go from Envoy new hire to AA new hire? Keep in mind 30 is the minimum that Envoy has to send per month.
Gimmick? That is one hell of a nice gimmick...especially when you go from an E-175 to a 767 in 5 years or less. PSA isn't a bad place to be if your only goal for the next 20 years is to be a line holding Captain on an RJ flying between Charlotte and Knoxville. Sure, go to PSA and live that life to it's fullist.
Oh, and once the 824 are gone, if Envoy says that they have staffing problems, the guaranteed "flow" that you are talking about will be gone overnight. If there are only 1200 pilots, there is no way that any airline could survive with more than 25% of their pilots leaving every year. There is no way that they could keep check airmen and senior captains. It is simply unsustainable. Break out that calculator and try that one. 360 pilots "flowing" each year, with a pilot group of 1200 would mean that from the day that you are hired, you will be at AA within 40 months.