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Old 05-06-2015 | 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by index
The topic was "support your reps and NC." I was referring to the notion that we should blindly support both groups. I vehemently disagree.
I thought that was the topic, too. Then you wrote this: "The rest of your list is already afforded through a line pilots decision to trade off with their overall seniority."

So I used an issue that causes a natural rift in the pilot group to illustrate that there are differing opinions regarding seniority. We address the issue collectively, even though we know many of us will - naturally - disagree on the solution.

Originally Posted by index
The "majority of our pilot group" has no direct role in the process.
"Direct role"? You mean like directly voting on whether or not the deal is acceptable? It's the final and most direct role. That's like saying the Supreme Court doesn't have a direct role in laws because it doesn't pass them or execute them.

Originally Posted by index
Once it goes to the membership it's already a done deal. History says every agreement that goes to the pilot group will pass. Good or bad. You probably consider this validation. It's always the result of a full court sales job and fear campaign that emphasizes the positives and minimizes the negatives, those that are even mentioned.

I expect the next agreement will be no different. History tells us I am right.
With the exception of your characterization of the "campaign", I'd say your view of history is right on. I think an MEC that sends out a deal that fails to be ratified has done a poor job of determining what most of us want. If we do a good job giving our reps input, the deal will pass.
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