Originally Posted by
Timbo
So the Strategic Planning Committee is 'negotiating' with management, on their own?
Without any input or oversight by either our MEC or our Negotiating Committee??
If true, that is very disturbing, but given what happened in 2012 not surprising.
And look at the MEC vote count, 10 yes, 9 no...any wonder why CVG is still open and MEM was quickly closed? Just like DFW was closed just prior to the MEC election that put LM in charge, to give away our DB plan and sell us LOA 51.
Same guys in charge of SPC.
No wonder we are still 18% behind 2004 rates.
Not true.
btw, a lot of your post is also not true.
Malone's administration alleged that management closed DFW just to get at the MEC. It delayed the MEC Chairman election by 2 weeks back in August, 2005. A "special investigation" was conducted by the Malone camp. They came up with nothing. The one person that alleged that management interfered recanted in order to not have to take a sworn deposition. It also didn't pass the common sense test. Management would have to assume that when they announced the base closure that the MEC would be dissatisfied enough to elect a new MEC Chair several months later, and that whoever replaced the current Chair would be "better." Oh, and they'd also have to violate Federal law (union interference). Just how many flights do we have in DFW now versus the peak?
For C2012, the two voting MEM (RM and JS) reps were solidly in the "yes" camp. Had the base stayed open the vote would have been 16-5 to pass.
Same guys aren't in charge of the SPC. There has been a lot of turnover on that committee. The negotiating committee has one guy in the same seat. There's a new MEC Chair, Vice Chair, Secretary, and Treasurer.
Your pension plan wasn't "given away," it met the standards for termination. There used to be 100K DB plans in this country; now there are less than 30K. Plans that didn't meet the standard (NWA pilot, DAL non-contract plan) weren't terminated.
Yes, we're still 18% behind C2K peak payrates. And nobody else currently has those rates either, including the three companies that never went bankrupt (SWA, FDX, UPS). Why is that, Timbo? You seem to forget that while you were enjoying those payrates and the rapid advancement from the run on the bank that 1310 of your peers were making ZERO from that contract.
I want more, Timbo, a lot more. How do posts like yours help us get there? Shoot outside the circle, please.