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Old 05-11-2015 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
So the Strategic Planning Committee is 'negotiating' with management, on their own?
It sure looks that way. But the reason is the complete dysfunctionality of the MEC administration and complete irrelevance of Donatelli. It's apparently even worse than what was happening when the MEC administrators were scheming to cut Kingsley Roberts' throat. One side of the dysfunctionality is doing the end-around because they see the dysfunctionality as doing damage to the pilot group. The other side is leaking it because they see doing an end-around of our democratic process (again) as doing damage to the pilot group.

Originally Posted by Timbo
Without any input or oversight by either our MEC or our Negotiating Committee??
Yes.

Originally Posted by Timbo
If true, that is very disturbing, but given what happened in 2012 not surprising.
It sure is.

Originally Posted by Timbo
And look at the MEC vote count, 10 yes, 9 no...any wonder why CVG is still open and MEM was quickly closed? Just like DFW was closed just prior to the MEC election that put LM in charge, to give away our DB plan and sell us LOA 51.
We are sure enough still 10-9, but 10-9 in favor of the surrender early crowd.

Originally Posted by Timbo
Same guys in charge of SPC.
The guy in charge now was just an SPC member before, but your point is valid. It's the same anti-democratic crowd that keeps finding their way back to the pig trough...no matter how many times reps fire them.

Originally Posted by Timbo
No wonder we are still 18% behind 2004 rates.
10-9 always in favor of surrender. We're so close...but so far.

Carl
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