Carl, your idea of debate is overwhelming the audience with your noise. If anyone disagrees with you, they are labeled as part of the surrender early crowd or whatever the insult du jour is.

I have no desire to debate with you. I had my fill 3 years ago. The point of my post was simply that you are constantly railing against a growing number of Delta pilots, and can't seem to grasp that they're/we're not out to get you.

Carry on