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Old 05-11-2015 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by AboveAndBeyond
I really have to believe that Envoy pilots are smarter than that. All of them that I know certainly are, and have no bad feelings to PSA.

Here is a good litmus test for this. What would have happened if the order of the votes was reversed? As it stood, PSA voted NO twice and so did Envoy. But, instead of PSA voting first in the next one, Envoy did. The company came to you and gave you the same exact ultimatum that they did before your vote. It was "Vote yes or we will shut you down, and here is how we will do it". Would Envoy have voted yes?

The answer is ABSOLUTELY! They would have voted yes in the same ratio that they did in the real one. You knew that you would be shut down if you didn't vote yes. If you guys really wanted to "burn it down", you would have voted no this last time.

Then...

Ask yourself this question. If PSA had voted no, and AAG started to shut PSA down, would you have voted no to the last vote, or would you have caved in? Knowing that you would be shut down too, would you have voted no? The flying would have been sent to other carriers, all of these new pilots at PSA would be going to that other carrier, and everyone at PSA and Envoy would be out of a job in 3 years.

Once again, you know damn well that you would have voted yes again. You played your game, and AAG played their game. There was absolutely no way that you were going to win.

It didn't matter what happened at PSA, Envoy would have voted the same way.
You forgot the important part of Sublime's argument....

It was perfectly acceptable for Eagle pilots to vote yes to save their job but it was absolutely NOT ok for PSA to do the same.

Remember......We had leverage.
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