Well if that chitchat rumor is close to 9/9/5/5 it's a done deal... Just sayn. If it passed at 4/8/4/4 or was it 4/8/3/3? it will pass hands down at 28% raise for three yrs. plain and simple, a third of the airline retires in the next three to five yrs. I don't think they really care if the credit for vacation goes up,or the scope is better, etc...